{"id":6229,"date":"2017-07-12T06:17:12","date_gmt":"2017-07-12T10:17:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/policepsychologyblog.com\/?p=6229"},"modified":"2017-07-18T15:23:25","modified_gmt":"2017-07-18T19:23:25","slug":"police-psychology-interview-intelligence-and-counterintelligence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/policepsychologyblog.com\/?p=6229","title":{"rendered":"Police Psychology Interview:  Intelligence and Counterintelligence"},"content":{"rendered":"<body><p><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: center;\">Police Psychology Interview: \u00a0Intelligence and Counterintelligence<\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">with James Turner, Ph.D.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Some of the earliest use of psychology in operational policing\u00a0was by the military. \u00a0I remember reading stories of how B. F. Skinner invented a pigeon-controlled missile which were much more accurate than the guidance systems available at the time.\u00a0 <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"106\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/policepsychologyblog.com\/?attachment_id=106\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/policepsychologyblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/turner.jpg?fit=230%2C220\" data-orig-size=\"230,220\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Turner\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;Police psychology: counterintelligence &lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/policepsychologyblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/turner.jpg?fit=230%2C220\" class=\"size-full wp-image-106 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/policepsychologyblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/turner.jpg?resize=230%2C220\" alt=\"Police psychology: counterintelligence\" width=\"230\" height=\"220\" loading=\"lazy\">Ebbinghaus had military applications of his memory work at the turn of the twentieth century, and we all know the history of the IQ tests had military motivations.\u00a0 Jim Turner worked in developing many uses of intelligence and counterintelligence while working for military agencies and police agencies some of which are still classified.\u00a0 His last work was for the Joint Counterintelligence Training Academy where he taught.\u00a0 This was an interview with Jim to learn a little more about intelligence in the police psychology world.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0 Jim, what exactly is intelligence?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jim:\u00a0 Intelligence is a collection of information from a variety of technologies, that have to be interpreted.\u00a0 Different types of intelligence include actionable intelligence, direct action and responses, then there is background intelligence on ongoing, internal and external processes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0 Then what is Counterintelligence?<\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jim:\u00a0\u00a0 Counterintelligence is what people process about us, and what we attempt to monitor and evaluate.\u00a0\u00a0 It is important in counterintelligence that you learn what needs to be protected form who and determining what is someone\u2019s motive for stealing it.\u00a0 It can also be the selective interjection of information to get a particular out come to divert attention away from what we want to protect, all designed to influence strategic and tactical decision making.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0 Damn, Jim that is a mouthful and hard to decipher itself.\u00a0 Can you say it in easier terms?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jim:\u00a0 Intelligence help us make decisions and counterintelligence helps us have control over what decisions are made against us.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0\u00a0 What is the role of psychologist, or of psychology in intelligence?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jim:\u00a0 The psychologist plays a role at many levels.\u00a0 He understands how people process information, their biases and heuristics.\u00a0\u00a0 So firstly, it is a generalized information processing where the psychologist can add value.\u00a0 The second area is understanding how people will respond to particular information.\u00a0 Will they take action?\u00a0 Will they sit back be frozen with overload, or will they sit back and watch things unfold?\u00a0 The third area is assessing the level of stress of all persons in intelligence are experiencing.\u00a0 BY applying the principles of social psychology and the understanding how particular individuals may react to certain situations.\u00a0 Finally, psychologist also can contribute to the understanding of cultural issues and the biases rather than purely their own country\u2019s point of view.\u00a0 Many world events occur as a cultural misinterpretation.\u00a0 A psychologist brings a different level of education and specifically psychological education to look at cultural heuristics and biases.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0 What is role of psychology in counterintelligence?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jim:\u00a0\u00a0 It\u2019s again interpreting how to not give away protected information and identifying what needs to be protected.\u00a0 Secondly, it\u2019s looking at what others are trying to collect and helping to figure out their interests and what are their goals.\u00a0 A third level is helping assess risk and vulnerabilities.\u00a0\u00a0 Fourth, using deception to steer people away from protected information.\u00a0\u00a0 And finally, showing how certain pieces of information will affect policy and decision making, showing how things affect people.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0 I know psychologists are often used in designing brochures and propaganda.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jim:\u00a0 Of course, what word will get what effect.\u00a0 The psychologist often helps an agency define what will get a visceral reaction, rather than just something that get seen and thrown away without a thought.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0\u00a0 How can the psychologist be used in a police department for intelligence matters?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jim:\u00a0 \u00a0In police department, psychology is used in understanding pattern of criminal groups, drug rings, patterns of behavior of subcultures or cultures.\u00a0 How do we use those patterns as police to further law enforcement goals?\u00a0\u00a0 Second, which individuals in a network might be most vulnerable to helping the police and how do we get to them.\u00a0 Third, psychologist can be helpful in neighborhood policing for getting the community involved, creating perception of police by the public and getting people to cooperate,\u00a0 from helping police develop strategies for terrorism to getting people to report to police and suspicious events or people engaged in threatening behavior, essentially help people become safer.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0\u00a0 I know gang information is often processed through a department psychologist.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jim:\u00a0\u00a0 That is probably the best example of how a psychologist can function in a department, the subculture of a gang.\u00a0 What goes through their minds?\u00a0 Where are they likely to target?\u00a0 Who can you get to in the gang?\u00a0 Who might fear prison more than the gang?\u00a0 How can you get the community to report what a gang is doing?\u00a0 All roles a psychologist or person who studied psychology could assist the police.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0\u00a0 How do you get some training in intelligence and counterintelligence?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jim:\u00a0 There are some research-oriented American Intelligence journals, but formal training is limited.\u00a0 Most learning is through apprenticeships.\u00a0 You are educated by the developing techniques in many social sciences, and particularly social psychology.\u00a0 There are some good courses studying the applied side of psychology, but intelligence and counterintelligence is your own training.\u00a0 You have to develop a different set of consultation skills.\u00a0 It is essentially the person \u201cwho gets it\u201d that is the best at working in intelligence and counterintelligence.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Gary:\u00a0 Thank you Jim Turner on making us more intelligent in this field.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Site Administrator:\u00a0 <em>Gary S. Aumiller, Ph.D. ABPP<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>Please share this article from down below.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><em>Please join the email list on the top of the sidebar and you can get these sent to your email.\u00a0 Also follow me on Twitter (<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ThinBlueMind\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/ThinBlueMind<\/a>) for other articles and ideas, and YouTube at\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCfjNw0510ipr3bX587IvAHg\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCfjNw0510ipr3bX587IvAHg<\/a> .<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/body>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Police Psychology Interview: \u00a0Intelligence and Counterintelligence with James Turner, Ph.D. \u00a0 Some of the earliest use of psychology in operational policing\u00a0was by the military. \u00a0I remember reading stories of how B. F. Skinner invented a pigeon-controlled missile which were much more accurate than the guidance systems available at the time.\u00a0 Ebbinghaus had military applications of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17168888],"tags":[17168814,17168813,17168797],"class_list":["post-6229","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-information","tag-counterintelligence","tag-intelligence","tag-police-psychology"],"aioseo_notices":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1556,"url":"http:\/\/policepsychologyblog.com\/?p=1556","url_meta":{"origin":6229,"position":0},"title":"Police Psychology | Processing Under Pressure","author":"Gary Aumiller","date":"April 14, 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"Police Psychology | Processing Under Pressure A Book Review \u00a0 I am probably the largest distributor in the world of two books, my own Keeping It Simple and Matthew Sharps\u2019 book Processing Under Pressure.\u00a0\u00a0 When a person comes into my office, there is a bookcase on the right with hundreds\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Books&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Books","link":"http:\/\/policepsychologyblog.com\/?cat=17168876"},"img":{"alt_text":"Police Psychology, Cognitive, Police Stress","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/policepsychologyblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/04\/SHarps.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":810,"url":"http:\/\/policepsychologyblog.com\/?p=810","url_meta":{"origin":6229,"position":1},"title":"Hogwarts and Police Psychology","author":"Gary Aumiller","date":"October 26, 2015","format":false,"excerpt":"Hogwarts and Police Psychology by Drs. 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